28.4.08

Alright, was is it really, that is so bad about Jr.?

May be...

  • I am not a fan or hater of Jr but their is too much media talk about him & for someone who hasn't won a race in 71 tries now. Jeff Gordon was in first place most of the 2007 season & Jimmie Johnson was going for back to back titles & Jr, the poster child of NASCAR is still getting more attention then Jeff & Jimmie. He gets more attention than any other driver in NASCAR & for someone who hasn't see victory lane or won a championship that's BS
  • BCBayliss you are correct, Junior was lookin kinda like his daddy yesterday. I give him credit on that one time it looked like he was a spinner for sure. that was a great save, but then he sealed the deal with that last lap pileup. Why aren't the Junior apologists admitting he drove reckless? Busch drove cleaner yesterday than Junior, and that's sayin' something!
  • Yes, bcbaylis, facts ARE facts, and you have yours WRONG! Jr was drafting / pushing Stewart when Stewart blew his right front tire and scraped the wall. Stewart IMMEDIATELY came over his radio and said "Make sure it gets back to Jr that he did NOTHING wrong! My tire was down." NOT Jr's fault. The second incident (lap 173) was when Tony and Labonte made it 4-wide later in the race and the 2nd lane closed up, Labonte made contact with Stewart sending Stewart into Jr's rear quarter-panel. Labonte then came up the track and made contact with Jr, which straightened Jr's sliding car out and saved a bigger wreck. Tony Stewart took full responsibility for that wreck during his post-race (not post-wreck) interviews. Once again I'm failing to see how that was even remotely Jr's fault. The only credit that I will even remotely give you is for the last lap melee which was part Jr's fault. Jr had a heck of a run going while drafting / pushing McMurray. Jr had managed to make up 15 spots (from 29th to 14th) in just over half a lap while dafting with McMurray part of that way before Jamie couldn't hang on any longer and lost it. Yes, Jr was pushing a bit hard on that one and contributed to the wreck. I don't know what kind of fuzzy math you use, but that makes ONE incident. Jr's driving was much better than that of Hamlin's, Montoya's, and Busch's, he just didn't have the finish to show for it.

    Brother 'Smack, people are going to believe ONLY what they want to believe. For some reason people want to hate Jr, just like others hate Busch (pick one of the two - doesn't matter) or Hamlin or Johnson or Gordon or..... you get the picture. It's just their prerogative. Jr is having and incredible season so far this year and the detractors just WANT to see him fail, so they'll make any little excuse they can to rationalize their hate and disdain.
  • Ok, edwards and kensith are driving the same, either they do really good, or they do really bad, its just the way all of Rousch/Fenway has been doing this year. Jr to me is very overrated at times, but still he is due for a win. It has been two years. At this point it has started to get retarded. He joined Hendricks to win for Christ sakes, so get him a win. The team belongs to Gordon and Johnson, but Jr. needs to show up in front and take the win. If it wasn't for him dumb move that took out a lot of good drivers (Stewart) then he would have won on Sunday, but at this rate i see his next win sometime in the latter part of the season, maybe after Indy, because Talladega in the fall is his better race, same with the later pheonix he could do it, but it is still a slim chance for him to win at richmond next week.
  • R U kidding! Besides the Obvious, His driving out there at Talladegga was RECKLESS!
    Everyone talks about Rowdy Busch, but Jr. caused More trouble yesterday than Montoya did!
    I cant wait for someone to put his A** in the wall!!!
    GO # 9 Kasey Kahne

    Report me if u want but fact r facts!
  • Junior's alright for a redneck.
  • Yes Jr.is having a great year but most people either love him or hate him ! I think he is a great driver and his wins will come soon enough.
  • There is nothing so "bad" about him.

    He is just so friggin hyped all the time, then he does not deliver the win everyone thinks he's going to...

    So he's in third with no wins this season. BIG FRIGGIN DEAL.

    Where's Jeff Gordon, What, What???? 14th with no wins??????

    Why aren't people giving him more grief than Dale Jr????

    I mean he's got 4 Cup Championships, Shouldn't he be
    going for 5????

    Matt Kenseth, past champion, 19th place, no wins.

    Bill Elliot, past champion, 45th with no wins in sight (all right, I know he's semi-retired)

    Wheeeewww, I'm feeling much better now.
  • I'm not Jr. fan, but I'm not a hater either. People dislike him because there is so much talk about him. Mainly due to his last name, but that's ok. Got to talk about someone, and I'd rather hear Jr. than that big eared freak in the 18 car.
  • Great question Smack, The haters will hate him even more once he does start winning, heck then they will blame him for winning, it too to long, why hasn't he won more, when is he going to win as many as his dad.. You know I think it would be wild to see him win the championship based on consistency, he is finishing people come on. Last year was rough for Jr Nation... I'm not worried about him winning he will win races..Dale Jr is a great guy and a great driver. Yeah the only driver in the top 5 without a win, theres nothing wrong with that I'm sure theres a lot of drivers would love to have that stat.. You know Smack, I find nothing wrong with Dale Jr at all..

    Go Dale Jr & Hms
  • Nothing. Even if he had won yesterday today's forum would have looked something like this:

    "If it wasn't for (insert name) Junior never would have won"
    "If it wasn't for that caution on lap 2 Junior never would have won"
    "If if wasn't for the wind blowing Junior around the track he never would have won"
    "If Senior hadn't reached down from Heaven and pushed Junior over the start/finish line, he never would have won"

    See where I am going with this? The haters will keep on hating no matter what Junior does win or loose he will continue to be bashed. He is in 3rd place for a reason....it's called talent and teamwork. Jealousy isn't pretty kids.


    PROUD MEMBER OF JUNIOR NATION!!!!!
  • there is nothing really bad about dale jr at all and the reason why he is getting a bad rep is people preceive that way i like dale jr myself.another reason he is getting a bad rep is maybe there is just to much pressure on him that is my guess.
  • Hey Smack, a lot of non fans want him to fail miserably. They will discredit anything and everything he does and he will never earn their respect, I'm guessing. If and when he wins a championship you will here "but it took him TOO long to win one" or "he ONLY has one". No matter what, they will never admit that he's a good driver. There is nothing bad about him other than sometimes his fans have too high of expectations and he has and always will be compared to his father. I don't remember people slamming Matt Kenseth near as much when he won the championship in 2003, even though he only won 1 race that year. Don't let it bring you down, he will win this year. It was too bad the HMS teammates couldn't have worked together a little more yesterday but that race was crazy towards the end!
    3 STR8 N 08!!!
  • there is nothing wrong with jr!!
  • mostly his fans..

    (not all of them, just most of them)
  • can't think of a thing...except all the media hype and that's not his fault
  • I think racing is all about who WINS. Not who finishes 3rd every week. My definition of a CHAMPION is the one who wins the most races!
  • Nothing personally Bad about Him--My Beef is with the Media Hype--He gets way to much Coverage for his On Track Performance!!!!!
  • Some people think he's just a fan favorite because of his last name and that he isn't in the same league with his famous father. I personally find Junior to be a very honest and humble young man who is more than capable and very earnest in his desire to be a top notch driver. I'm even sure at times he wishes his last name was something like Jones instead of Earnhardt. He will never be his father nor does he desire to. But he is a nice young man and dedicated to getting better and doing better.
    And did you hear the crowd when he went into the lead yesterday? I saw the replay and it was amazing!
  • I think what Steevo and Steffy said is SO TRUE. I couldn't have said it better.
  • Well, i used to like seing jr do good even though i wasnt a fan of him, but now i find him somehow annoying. Yea, go ahead and click the thumbs down, but i cant help it. I dont know if it is because my HATRED of hms(again, go ahead, click it) or what....
  • The guy is 3rd in points. Has 0 wins. He is the only guy in the top 5 in points without a win. But Carl Edwards with 3 (technically 2) wins sits 10th in points. Why is Jr getting a bad rep? Shouldn't Carl be like 2nd or 3rd? Come on guys, Let me know what is really so bad about Dale Jr!!
  • I don't think there is anything bad about Jr. However, it seems like there are some people out there who really dislike him. I really don't know why. He isn't my favorite driver, but he has a great record so far this year.
  • I could not agree with you more.
    See this post from me, that is almost exactly like your question.
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...
    I do not understand why everyone is so against Jr. either!
    I have so much both 8 and 88, stuff I almost can not collect any more.
    I truly believe that he will win at Richmond, then I am going to write to all Jr. critics to take their stinky shoes, out of their mouths, and a**es.
  • my stand point is he is have a good year so far, wins will come!
    edwards only finishes in the top 10 when he wins if he dont have a good car he sucks so he sits in 10th.
  • Does'nt jr.ever thank sponsers ?

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  • As much I am not a Jr fan, he does thank his sponsors.
    I always hear him especially thanking Amp and National Guard, which are his 2 main sponsors.
    If they smaller sponsor are not paying him to give the extra verbal recognition, then he doesnt have to thank them.
  • He always thank his sponsors and his team do you have a mental block?
  • One thing is for sure, I sure always here him say Thank You to all his fans! Good or bad race, he will include his fans. I like team 48 to pieces, but Jimmie doesn't always thank his fans. I could care less if any of the guys thank their sponsors. That's between THEM, but without us fans, there wouldn't be a need for NASCAR.
  • Yes you are right he doesn't always thank them all ,maybe Superdave is right and he can't remember them all !
  • AMP is his main sponsor along with his manufacturer, etc.

    If they are not paying him to say thanks, he won't.
  • He does but i think Jr Has a hard time in interviews, he seems to fumble over his words sometimes, He is too honest and the media is just out there to screw you and get you to say things that they want to hear. I feel that the reason why is because he is soo nervous, and anywhys they alll over do it with takin a sip before every interview and takin 2 mins just to say there sponsers it gets old anyways but i dont think thats why he doenst do it i just think its the nerves.
  • Your right. I think I only heard him thank National gaurd a couple times.
  • He does thank them. Normally he waits till the end of the interview. He always mentions AMP/National Guard and he always thanks his team too.
  • I hadn't noticed, so maybe he doesn't. I'll pay attention next race.
  • I like Jr but he's not all that bright.
  • he allways thanks them
  • He doesn't act like a puppet like some drivers. If you've heard some of their interviews(other drivers) you can just about recite it word for word. He does need to thank them more, they are paying him bunches of money. Another thing might be he has so many sponsors he cant remember them all. I would have to carry a list with me because I would forget someone I'm sure.
  • I'm a fan , but it just seem's like 1 out of 10 interviews that he says thank AMP !
  • I don't think you are a fan. He does thank them just not every single one on his car.

    If you want to hear someone thank everybody he has ever met become a Michael Waltrip fan. He is a walking commercial who rarely finds time to actually answer the question or comment on why he is being interviewed.
  • Thank goodness if that is the truth. Constant sponsor plugs have gotten old.
  • Will Brian Vickers win a race this year?

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  • On shear speed and car he I doubt he will ever win. However, on a fuel mileage gamble or being in the right place at the right time on a restrictor plate track, he has a pretty good chance to win.
  • brian vickers blows and will never win a race...
  • He holds himself pretty steady. I know from the Fantasy stand point he is the most consistent and highest ranking "C" list driver. He has 2 top 10's and 1 top 5. I think he has a pretty good shot of winning a race.
  • NO
  • Nope
  • I don't think he could win 1 this year, but it would be good if he did. Its a plesant surprise how well Team Red Bull & all of the Toyota teams (sans JGR (only cause they weren't with Toyota last season)) are doing.

    MWR
    #00
    #44
    #55
    All in the top 35, Michael making every race this season, Dale not having to use up all of his past-Champ provisionals like last season. Quite the turn around

    BDR
    #22
    Ok, well they were the Toyota team last season but this season ain't going so hot for 'em.

    TRB
    #83
    #84
    Well at least Brian is doing a heck of a job this season. AJ he'll improve.
  • Yesterday Vickers was doing pretty good at Talladega. I recently changed my fav. driver from Reed Sorenson to Brian Vickers b/c Sorenson has been doing bad ever since I started rooting for him. I was just wondering if there are any Vickers fans out there and if anybody thinks he will win a race this year?
  • not a fan but sure he will win atleast one.
  • Vickers will never win another race. Unless he is running 3rd on the last lap and wrecks his teammate in 2nd and the leader.
  • maybe not this year, but i am sure he will win at least one in his career
  • No, I think he is a flop...sorry but that is just the way it is...he won't win another race because I think he was rushed along too soon. Ricky Hendrick wanted to get him to Cup after winning the Busch Series title at 20, the youngest to do so...I think that a couple of years in Busch(now nationwide) should have served him better. No I don't think he will win another.
  • Reed is an ok driver but needs to be a little more consistent. Give him some more time, not my top 5 but like him. Vickers, not sure if he will get a win this year but anything can happen. I know he won't make the chase as people predict he will.
  • What are the Nascar speed records. Sorry about the bad english.?

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  • I wan't to know first the highest speed a Nascar Truck can get. And the "common" Narcars can do too.

    Thanks for the comprehension.
  • Bill Elliot ran 210 at Daytona and 212 at Talladaga in 1985. Record will likely stand forever.
  • The highest closed circuit speed for a NASCAR was a Rusty Wallace test lap without the restricter plate at Talladega Speed way he had a lap average of 216 mph. Bill Elliot holds the official record at 212 (also at Talladega) for an actual qualifying lap.
    Currently Atlanta Motor speedway is the fastest track (no restricter plate used), at nearly 195 average. Top speed on this track is over 200. The COT being slightly slower than the older cars (track record is 197 mph)

    The trucks are slower.. Qualifying speeds at Atlanta are in the mid 170's

    For reference. The current closed course speed record is held by Gil de Ferran in a CART spec indy car at an AVERAGE of 241 mph.. hitting straightway speeds in excess of 250. This was in 2000.
  • Doug, Texas is the fastest track. Atlanta is 2nd.
    1. Texas Motor Speedway - 196.235 MPH
    Texas Motor Speedway was repaved during the 2006 season providing an entirely different racing surface for the drivers when they returned during The Chase for the Cup. Brian Vickers took advantage of the smooth surface and posted a 196.235 MPH lap to take the pole. This vaulted Texas into first place as the fastest race track on the modern NEXTEL Cup schedule.
    2. Atlanta Motor Speedway - 194.690 MPH
    Until 2006 Atlanta Motor Speedway had held the title of NASCAR's fastest speedway since it was reconfigured during the 1997 season. However it must now settle for second on the list since the quickest qualifying lap posted here since 2000 is Ryan Newman's 194.690 MPH lap. Newman has held this track record since 2005.
  • Tony Stewart's Future With Gibbs?

    May be...

  • Will he be with gibbs next year?
    If not who will he be with next year?
  • tony is under contract until the end of 2009
  • yes he will be with gibbs
  • He'll stay with JGR but Wild Thing is now their top driver.
  • He will be with gibbs until '09 season end, then i think he will stay with gibbs if an ownership program is set. if not who knows
  • RCR

    wants back in a Chevy
  • tony with gibbs to 09 and i think he will go with hendricks, or childress, nut in the end i think he will stay with ginns
  • No he won't be at Gibbs. Maybe he goes to RCR. But who knows at this point.
  • who cares, let him go!!!! they have the most promising talent in nascar!!! Kyle busch!!! and they have Denny hamlin...Yes Smoke has two cup championships, but that doesn't mean his crap doesn't stink.. he isn't as good as he thinks he is, plus he is going to want WAY more money than he is worth!!
  • Tony Stewart's Future With Gibbs?

    May be...

  • who cares, let him go!!!! they have the most promising talent in nascar!!! Kyle busch!!! and they have Denny hamlin...Yes Smoke has two cup championships, but that doesn't mean his crap doesn't stink.. he isn't as good as he thinks he is, plus he is going to want WAY more money than he is worth!!
  • He'll stay with JGR but Wild Thing is now their top driver.
  • He will be with gibbs until '09 season end, then i think he will stay with gibbs if an ownership program is set. if not who knows
  • RCR

    wants back in a Chevy
  • yes he will be with gibbs
  • tony with gibbs to 09 and i think he will go with hendricks, or childress, nut in the end i think he will stay with ginns
  • tony is under contract until the end of 2009
  • Will he be with gibbs next year?
    If not who will he be with next year?
  • No he won't be at Gibbs. Maybe he goes to RCR. But who knows at this point.
  • 27.4.08

    Nascar question?

    May be...

  • no..if there that dumb they shouldnt be driving a nascar..
  • Do you think any drivers in Nascar use GPS systems while driving ? Hey look, another left turn. I wonder what way I'm turning next ?
  • only in their motorhomes or rental cars....
  • No, but I bet YOU have one so you can get to the corner store!

    Go Jr.>>>>
  • i don't think so but it would be funny if they did
  • this is not a funny question... even if you were trying to... but no they don't use GPS and watch a race it isn't just left turns
  • No, they don't. But someone called Mr. Loser would probably need one. lol
  • All the cars are equipped with GPS, but for other reasons.
  •