16.4.08

Lucky dog rule by Nascar is ok, but part of it is not fair, see details and let me know if you agree?

May be...

  • Although it may have been on purpose, or may not have been... that arguement will have to be answered seperately.

    However, the reason why Biffle happened to get that paticular pass was the fact that by the rules of NASCAR he had PASSED the car that was on the track in front of him in positions. (Meaning that while Newman is in the process of spinning out of control he is 'passed' by Biffle.)

    Therefore when NASCAR decided that time had come to put out the yellow flag, Biffle's position was the first car a lap down and therefore he automatically got the 'lucky dog'.

    However the better way to improve the 'lucky dog' rule would be to combine old-school with new. Let the flag come out, everyone continue to race to the start/finish line like the days of old, THEN after that's done take the first car down and use the 'lucky dog' rule. This would make it more harmful for someone to 'wall' another driver for the risk of being involved as well and loosing his spot by the time they get back to the finish line.
  • I completely agree with you. Between this "lucky (spinner) dog" rule and the top 35 rule this sport is becoming a bunch of BS politics.
  • Yes, it would seem that there is the proverbial loophole in the Lucky Dog Rule.

    But, don't be surprised if NASCAR didn't already know about it.

    They have made it clear that they will not tolerate "aggressive driving". Biff got away with this one.

    The rule also states that the car that "caused the caution" is not eligible to receive the free pass. That is entirely up to the NASCAR officials to decide WHO caused the yellow.

    I bet they park a few drivers before long, or hand out big penalties for doing this.
  • I agree, NASCAR should change the rule. I never thought about it, but its true.
  • You have pointed out the major flaw in the rule. Biffle obviously knew this loophole and used it to his advantage denying Newman the free pass. Jeff Gordon also said that it would be best to put the lucky dog directly ahead of the leader on the tail end of the lead lap and if he can stay ahead of the leader until the next caution then he can get back with the lead lap cars. I have never liked this rule.
  • Yes I agree!!!!!
  • If it becomes an issue, then Nascar will act accordingly I'm sure.
  • I don't think Biffle wrecked him on purpose and further more if these drivers second down start doing this, NASCAR will just penalize them for rough driving. This is a non-issue in my opinion. We've had this rule for what 3 or 4 years now and we just haven't seen this happening and causing wide spread problems.
  • You have a great point. I agree 100%. I think they need to get rid of the lucky dog and just let them race back to the line. It is dangerous, but it is so exciting.
  • I agree I think that you do open another pandoras box if you let Nascar make some more of there "judgement calls". It would be tuff if multiple cars were involved and it was not as cut and dry as what you mentioned. It is something to look at especially if we started seeing this happen a lot!!!
  • You really have noi clue do you?
    Try to imagine cars in the middle of the back spending more time driving in there mirror while being passed by real racers with position. You should lose your "Guy Card" for such a
    lame comment.
    Mike
    Speedway,Indiana
  • I agree with you 200%

    Go Jeff Gordon.
  • I agree with you 110%
  • You won't see people intentionally spinning out other cars. Dale Sr doesn't race anymore.
  • the part of the rule that is not fair, is the part where the first driver a lap down does not get the lucky dog pass if he is involved in the caution, It should be modified to say ( unless the caution is caused by the second man down. here is why.
    In Texas 2 weeks ago, Newman was the first man down to get the lucky dog pass, Biffle was the second man down, Biffle then hit Newman in the left back fender of the car, causing Newman to spin out of control, Caution is out and Newman is denied the lucky dog pass cause he is involved in the caution, they then give the lucky dog pass to Biffle, If this rule is not modified, you will start seeing the second man down, purposely spinning out the first man to to cause a caution and the second man gets the lucky dog, Looks to me like Biffle has that already figured out, and spun Newman out on purp[ose.
  • I agree with u 100 % and u r right, The Biff new exactly what he was doing and didn't he finish in the top 5?
    GO # 9 Kasey kahne
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