What do you think?

May be...

And the patriots never cheated? Its called gaming the system. Fabricate the truth for the benifit of the listener. Give me a rule book and I will follow it but if the rules are not in there, I will do it. Heres my philosophy, "Show me in writting that I cant do that?" People who complain about cheating are the same ones who complain about NASCAR rules. Help NASCAR out by filling up thier rule book by coming up with every possible infractions there is that can be attempted. Oh wait, they already have a commitee for that and they get paid. Not everyones perfect.

Actually, I'd say the crewchief's job is more to push every gray area to it's limit, rather than to out-and-out cheat. You find where the rules aren't defined clearly enough, and twist the h**l out of them (hopefully) to your advantage.
If you break an existing rule, you WILL be caught. If you push the envelope on a gray area, you may still get caught, but at least you can argue your case before you're fined, docked & suspended.
The issue here is that NASCAR operates on the Napoleonic Code: "Guilty until proven innocent".

Theres cheating every where now in all sports and NASCAR just happens to be one of them...After all its not cheating unless you get caught.. I'm sure all teams have cheated at once time or another...some get caught some don't..

Yeah, I answered a question similar to this earlier. These crew chiefs are paid an insane amount of money to find and exploit the little "gray" areas in the rule book, or any other competitive advantage possible for that matter. Jr. was right saying they got out-cheated. Nobody, including Jr., wanted to see him win like that.

I'd say all teams probably try a thing or two every race. I personally like that part of racing thats what makes it interesting. I say the teams that are crying foul are probably just mad they didn't think of it first.

The Long Time Saying--ITS ONLY CHEATING IF YOU GET CAUGHT!!!!!!!

from the old school...."if you ain't cheating , you ain't racing" lol.....


just alot harder to get away with it now......

this is a quote from Jr...It wouldn't matter to me because that wouldn't be a great way to win one," Earnhardt said. "I wouldn't find happiness or pride in that, so it makes no difference to me. When it comes down to it, you line them up and you race and the guy that crosses the finish line first is the winner. If you got out-cheated, you didn't do your homework вЂ" you know what I mean? You didn't do your homework."
you cant tell me all teams dont cheat...this isnt a jab at Jr...just all teams. i just thought it was interesting.

Like Jeff Hammond said, it's the crew chief's job to cheat and NASCAR's job to catch them. I have to agree that it is only cheating if you get caught! Why is it, if you hate Jr. so bad, that no matter what you post, it refers in some way to Jr.? Just curious.

Go Jr.>>>>

so basically he said he got out-cheated... which is true... Your right that everyone cheats, but some guys take it too far and get caught and NASCAR lays down the hammer... Case in point = Carl Edwards this past week

It's not interesting. It's old news. If anyone has watched NASCAR for many years, they know that all teams constantly look for ways to enhance their cars. You're not going to find a driver or crew chief who can honestly say that they haven't tried to get by with something here and there.

After all the drivers and people that would know came out this week and said what Edwards crew did was on purpose, that is a very interesting statement. Jeff Burton said that the oil cap thing has been done for years. Sadler said they always did that when he drove the 21 and the 38. You're right it is interesting.

Yeah..they all cheat Jr.Sucks !! Some just better than others.... These days...when a 2inch long piece of tape on the grill,decides wether or not you go... or go home... You could only imagine what little secrets,the big dogs have !! Thats why you only see maybe 10 out of 43 cars,win evert week !! I do know however,that the #16 came through the ''BACK'' of the pack [''2''] times last week.... With HIS oil-tank lid ''ON''