18.6.09

Is this nascars way to weed out the weak and underfunded?

May be...

  • What I don't understand is why the manufacturer of the engine didn't get penalized? That entity gave paperwork saying the engine was within NASCAR specs so I have a problem with that. You know, I would venture to say the team was NOT cheating - they went on good faith from the manufacturer that the engine was ok.

    If anyone was going to pull the wool over NASCAR's eye, then why would Long have given them the engine to inspect IF he KNEW it didn't meet specs? From what I understand, Long could have loaded up and taken the engine home without NASCAR inspecting it.

    Then, we come back to Jeremy Mayfield. He failed two drugs tests. Now, he is being accused of using Meth. Who do you believe? Why would a driver screw himself and his team like that when he / she knew that drug tests would be given at random times? There is no way you can know when a drug test is given..........

    The whole think is very sad. I feel for the Longs. But what about the manufacturers paperwork????????? What am I missing??????
  • no it isn't.
  • Yet another theory...
  • Sounds like they are weeding.

    So they are shooting themselves in the foot.

    I wonder if it is because the sales of Carl's "official licensed merchandise" does not sell as well as other drivers?????

    I also wonder if they will dole out the same to a more "popular" driver?
  • CONSPIRACY THEORY # 1074
  • That is a whole lot of money and I do believe from such an infraction as that...$200,000 is beyond many of the "weaker" teams grasp.
    Wouldn't be nice if there was a fund set up by the NASCAR drivers to donate every once in awhile to help defray the costs of penalties such as this? Too many drivers have spoken out against this overbloated fine. The powers that be in NASCAR are ruining the sport.
  • http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headline...

    and before this it was jeremy mayfield.

    is nascar trying to get rid of the weaker teams?u hear nascar talk about helping the single car teams,then they turn around and do this.$200,000............that is alot of money.
    like carl said,with this fine it will put his race team out.

    now i do realize,the team was caught cheating,intentional or not.
  • It is, but I guarentee that if it was Dale Jr. or another top driver- nothing would happen to them. Instead they would blame the engine builder. Its stupid by NASCAR, but they only care about those top teams- that is where they get the money. I see Jr hats but I dont see Carl Long hats, and that is how NASCAR makes money.
    Do you go to a race to see Long? No
    Do you go to see Edwards, Stewart, Jr, Gorden, Busch (Your favorite driver)? Yes
  • It sure look like that's what they are doing .




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  • I'm going to have to agree with you on this one. It seems like a mighty stiff fine for that type of an infraction. Eich has a good point too...what about the manufacturer?? Unfortunately the powers that be in Nascar are all about the $$$. Take a look at some of the cars this weekend, there sure aren't the sponsors everywhere on the cars like they have been. I feel bad for the Longs. :(

    Agreed, cheating is cheating.
  • yup i say that makes a good point i believe in conspiracy to save $ and knock out the small guy.
  • I don't completely agree with Nascar, but this time they are caught in the middle. It has long been known that Nascar will in no way, shape, or form, tolerate any kind of cubic inch rule infraction, deliberate or otherwise. If it had been a Ganassi car, or a Hendrick car found to be over the limit, noone would say Boo. But because it's a single guy trying to run on a shoestring, Nascar should change the way it enforces the rules? In this case, no I don't think so. I understand racing is not cheap. If you can't afford to pay, you can't afford to play - it's that simple. Carl Long could have run some ARCA races or done something with a little smaller budget instead of trying to run in the Cup series.
  • No, It's nascar's way of punishing people who CHEAT!! I have no problem with the penalty whatsoever. If you get a speeding ticket, you don't pay more or less depending on how sucessful or rich or poor or poor you are. If this puts his team out of business, so be it. Price you pay for breaking the rules.
  • Nascar should have lowered the fine. They didn't do this purposely to put Long out of business but some flexibility would have been nice.

    Mayfield I believe deserves what he is getting.


    I'm really disappointed that some of the multi millionaire drivers haven't chipped in to help. Three or four of them could do it easily. What is 50k when you make 15 to 35 million a year?

    Long does have a pretty good case for suing Ernie Elliot in court if he has it in writing.
  • I can understand Long's postion but Mayfield did it to himself. Mayfield had no business being on that track plain and simple.find palm zire 71 for sale
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