27.10.08

Is it about time NASCAR ends the final points races for the championship?

May be...

  • I like competition. As long as the rules are the same for everybody going into the season, it shouldn't make a difference. There's plenty of time to prepare for the chase and to prove yourself. Either you "can" or you "can't". Anything other than that is just "tough luck". And as I always say, "there is no good luck in racing, only bad luck".
  • I hate the chase bs. If the old system was good for Dale sr.Why not now.
  • Last year should have belonged to Jeff Gordon and this year should belong to Kyle B. The adulterated tampering has blanked the whole thing up. You may not have wanted Jeff or Kyle to win the championship but you couldn't have said that they didn't earn it.

    I think the feelings are that JJ has not earned the right by only mastering the championship and not the season the way Jeff and Kyle have.
  • I agree with everything you wrote above, 2gadoo! great question & insight!
  • I like the old system better, but to your Johnson comment, he will if he wins it be up there with Yarborough and that would be a great accomplishment.
  • I don't like the Chase and I don't like JJ. But I will absolutely give him and Chad all the credit for they have done. The system is what it is. Everybody is playing by the same rules and they are just killing them. You have to strategize according to the system in place. As good as they've been, they would probably have won these 3 championships under any format.
  • They should go back to the old way. I'm a old school fan.
  • Yes, things WOULD be totally different if they didn't have the chase but the teams have to work within the rules they are given. The 48 team would also have done some things differently earlier in the season if they were racing under the old points system but they obvuiously key on the last 10 races because that's how it's setup these days. The competition is much tougher nowdays, with more equal cars and more drivers racing in ALL the sheduled events. You can dislike the chase all you want but you cannot take anything away from Jimmie, Chad and Rick. They have worked harder and prepared better than the other teams plain and simple. Change the rules and format, the 48 team will adapt. Why is everybody hating on Jimmie for being one of the all time greats? Stop the hating and start appreciating!
    3 STR8 N 08!!!
  • I do not watch NASCAR. But I have a friend who is going to take me to a race and he gets pit passes ; )

    Sounds like fun!

    I have also been told that sitting up close and feeling the vibrations would be EXCITING *wink*

    GO PHILLIES!!!!!!!

    GO CELTICS!!!!!

    GO NASCAR!!!!!
  • I think that nascar intended to put excitement into the races because they were competting with football. For me this did not work and they need to go back to the way it was before. The only real champion is the guy who earned the most points during the year,or cut it back to ten races and call it a year. to me it is like a fishing contest, you fish 2 days to get a 10 pound lead then on the third day they take erase everything and send you out to fish and you lose by one pound to the lowest guy that came in. This is not justice it is a kick in the crotch. I actually watch less racing now that they started this chase crap.
  • This is ridiculous. How many years have we had the Chase now? The rules are the same for everyone. Get over the "Johnson hating" and give him his credit. Had Scrub not pulled off one the BIGGEST choke jobs in sports history and continued running like he had been, Johnson would be a non-factor right now. He's going out winning races, and when not winning, he's passing 9 cars in a handful of laps to finish 2nd.

    Can't blame him or Knaus for having the Chase formula figured out. It's time for everyone else to try to catch up and not spend all their time and energy to dominate the first 26 races of the season.
  • As someone already said. Johnson WOULD still be the points leader if onm the old system.

    Classic Driver Points Standings [after Atlanta race 33 of 36]:
    1) #48-Jimmie Johnson 4784 [6 wins]
    2) #99-Carl Edwards 4686 -98 [7 wins]
    3) #18-Kyle Busch 4581 -203 [8 wins]
    4) #31-Jeff Burton 4404 -380 [2 wins]
    5) #16-Greg Biffle 4343 -441 [2 wins]
    6) #88-Dale Earnhardt Jr. 4307 -477 [1 win]
    7) #29-Kevin Harvick 4224 -560
    8) #24-Jeff Gordon 4157 -627
    9) #20-Tony Stewart 4132 -652 [1 win]
    10) #11-Denny Hamlin 4048 -736 [1 win]
  • Not a chase fan and yes it should be changed to whoever has the most points at the last race wins the championship. No more wiping the slate clean after months of hard work.

    And I will stick by this whoever is or is not winning...I said it way before and I will continue to say it.
  • The race for the cup seems more like a joke than anything. Now Jimmie Johnson is being compared to some of the greats of all time. Yes he is a great driver but when you have a system like NASCAR has then its a totally different season.
    I say go back to the old way and give an extra 25 or more point bonus for winning the race.
    Any thoughts from NASCAR fans?
  • You can argue many different points, but one thing is true - Jimmie Johnson would still be points leader this year no matter which points system is in place. The only championship Jimmie would have lost is last year. Gordon would have taken that one. Get your facts straight before you ramble on.
  • Jeffys got it down! Scroll up!
  • My main complaint with the chase is that people are saying Jimmie wins "when it counts"
    The whole season should count, not just the last ten races.
    True, Jimmie would still be the points leader, and I'm not saying he hasn't done anything all season, it just seems as though he always kicks it into high gear come time for the chase as though the first 26 races were just practice sessions not accomplishments.
    That's a shame.
    If all teams were to do that, what a boring, pathetic season it would be.
  • YES HE WOULD BE WINNING NOW
    another so called race fan -- where do yall come from here at the end
  • Unfortunately this is a loaded question. They raced in different times, with different equipment, and different rules.

    Yarborough ran for 35 years (1957-1988) and raced in 560 races. He has 83 wins. That gives him a 14.82 percent win ratio.

    JJ has raced since 2001 (7 years) and raced in 252 races at the end of this season. As of today he has 39 wins. That gives him a win ratio of 15.48 percent.

    So as far as number go, JJ is a slightly better driver, but I agree that if you take away the Chase format, he might not be doing as well as he is.

    Sorry, it's early and the caffeine is just starting to kick in.
  • I don't think they will go back. I don't like it either except for the fact that Kyle Busch is not "in it". It doesn't seem fair, though!data received in unknown format 0x1505
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