31.10.08

Is NASCAR preventing a Toyota Championship? ?

May be...

  • It doesn't really matter, does it? Ford is backing out of NASCAR, Dodge will be gone as well.
    We'll be looking at IROC shortly. The only difference in the cars is decals.
  • No.
    If you twist and turn things around enough, anything could be made to look like a possibility, it's all just coincidence to me. And will remain so until someone has rock solid evidence to the contrary.
    To think such things would be fueling the fires of those who say it's scripted.
  • Yes, they are. They can do anything they want as long as NASCAR fans don't question it. If you ask these sort of things people will jump all over you, I guess they can't stand to think outside their little box and see that it might exist.
  • Yes, Nascar is rigged. Why else has Kyle Busch done as poorly as he has done since the Chase started? Just as you mention above, Nascar
    officials didn't mind for Toyota to win races right off the bat of entering the
    Cup Series, but it would be too much for Toyota to win a Championship
    in it's first year,, that is why , they are making certain that Jimmie Johnson win the Championship. They don't want Hendrick who has just
    gotten Dale Jr. into it's team to look bad. They throw imaginary cautions to help Johnson etc,

    Nascar has gotten to the point of being staged just like professional
    wrestling!

    I am very serious about this. I am not joking.
  • I thought the conspiracy was for nascar to be cheating to get Toyota to win.... that's what all the kyle haters have been saying when he was winning...... I don't think nascar pulls for any manufacture, i can see why they may throw fake yellows to try and bring up the drama at the end of a race but that's all i personally think nascar has it hand in the racing
  • Not a chance.Kyle is not going to win the championship because he had some bad luck/races.Denny Hamlin has not had a championship-winning team all year,along with Stewart.Brian Vickers and A.J. Allmendinger have had good years,but still not championship caliber.Waltrip racing and BDR are running about the same as they always have.There is no conspiracy that is keeping Toyota from winning a championship,only circumstances,teams,and equipment.
  • Nope, sorry I just don't believe in conspiracy theory's. If something like that was ever proved to be true imagine the trouble it would cause, especially only being Toyota's 2nd year in NASCAR. The lawsuits alone may bankrupt them, I just don't see NASCAR throwing races
  • In some ways yes, in others no.

    They are a private organization, so they could (think WWF) tell them to chunk it up a bit to gather interest. Then suddenly have "mechanical" problems. Either play our way, or we are taking our tracks and leaving....(sound like someone we all know?)

    But I doubt it. There are too many people doing interviews to not have someone say something.

    Good conspiracy theory though.
  • It sounds like you might have read my answer on another question. When I posted the remark that an official, employee, or representative said from Toyota said that NASCAR wants them to win but only by so much ... it was a video that I saw coming straight from the guys mouth. I can't find the story and by no means am I trying to start a conspiracy but that came from a person from Toyota himself. I just repeated it.

    Now if Toyota feels like NASCAR may be wanting them to tone it down then there has to be a reason. The guy would not have made that statement if he felt like there wasn't something to it. All of this that I am referring to is the deal where Toyota's team (and I'll leave names out for the purpose of keeping the peace right now) was busted for the magnet under the gas pedal to alter the outcome of the dyno test.

    Even though that incident is not related directly to the championship it is indeed a sign that NASCAR doesn't want a team to dominate the whole season (keeping the playing field level). With that said then it could be possible that NASCAR might have wanted Toyota to back off, or maybe NASCAR was onto a bigger scandal and Gibbs and Toyota felt like it might be wise to back off. Regardless of the case they have not ran the same since the chase started.

    You can put the pieces together and draw the conclusion that it may be possible BUT the truth will never be directly known.
  • No, I don't think so! Nascar follows the money! After NAFTA came along and put all these foreign car makes on the highways, with good value for the money, I think Nascar was smart enough to know what was going to happen with the big three automakers. All three are struggling and are putting less money in to there advertising budgets.I think they welcome the influx of money from Toyota. Nascar is not loyal to the big three when money is involved. They'll take it where they can get it!
    So, I say it's just bad luck at the wrong time!
    PEACE
  • i dont think so because its to many eyes ans ears around and all of them couldnt keep their mouth shut about it!!!!!!!
  • I didn't see it that way until a few said something in another question...but now I am wondering.
    Would it be like:
    NASCAR to TOYOTA - ok you can win races and show yourself but you aren't winning the Championship regardless.

    NO HATING. This is a legit question and could be any teams Toyota not just Kyle.
  • not at all, I believe most of the other teams (#48, #16, #99, #88, #31, #17) have finally figured out how to set up the car to where it can actually be able to compete the whole race. I don't know why Kyle is struggling so much in the chase
  • We all know that Toyota will eventually take over the series, they are the only ones with unlimited resources for research and development. Maybe, and this is a big maybe, they purposely reeled things in a little because of the total domination of the 18 team earlier in the year. It is conceivable that some higher ups in Toyota pulled some strings to sabatoge this season to divert attention from their overnight success. I don't believe that to be the case but I'm sure stranger things have happened. HAPPY HALLOWEEN, BWAHAHAHA!!!
    3 STR8 N 08!!!
  • I don't think so. I realize that TRD has a lot of input in the engines. But there are also engineers at JGR that have input into what goes under the hood. A we have seen before that someone could have a good first part of the year, and not do well in the Chase.

    And like someone else said, it would real tough to get that many people to keep a secret. And when you think about it even further, Tony Stewart would have no part of it. He hasn't seemed to have the same mechanical problems as Busch.

    NASCAR is a tough sport, it just so happens that Johnson/Knaus have it figured out so far. But even their run will come to an end sooner or later.
  • Gee I hope so.. although Toyota is helping NASCAR in ways, I hate seeing them in victory lane
  • I really don't think so. But it has been surprising how the toyota's have not been as strong as they were the first 36 races (not speaking of just Kyle, but all the Toyota driver's).

  • Maybe. Read the link to my question, in the additional details. "NASCAR conspiracy
    18 1/2"
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?...
  • I doubt it but that would be awesome. I wish Toyota would concentrate on what they do best, making lame, uninspiring, econoboxes.
  • I can see how people might think that, but I doubt that it's true. NASCAR has money and power, but so does Toyota. I can't see them laying down just because they were told to. JMHO

    That does sound very familiar, Tom P. You little devil. : )
  • I don't believe they are............
  • No, I think Toyota's experiencing a little slump cause everyone else has caught back up to them.usairways club
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